Seelie and Unseelie

symbaray617 said: Hi Cassie, I finished COHF in like 1-2 days, and I loved every word of it. I will be expecting TDA to be just as good, if not better. Anyways, as for my question, I’ve noticed in my Codex, that it mentions the Seelie and Unseelie Court, but it doesn’t really explain difference/similarities between the two groups. I assume the Unseelie Court is a badder version of the Seelie Court, and the Codex discusses the types of creatures that are in the courts, but will they be further explained in TDA?

claireknoetze.tumblr.com said: Hi Cassie! I’m sure you’ve heard this 1000 times, but THANK YOU so much for your books! I just finished reading CoHF and I absolutely loved it! It was perfect in every way possible! So this isn’t really an ask about CoHF but I just wanted to ask what the difference between the Seelie Court and the Unseelie Court is? Is that something that will be addressed in future books?

Hi Cassie! So after reading COHF and seeing the major role the seelie court plays in it I was wondering if the unseelie court would play any part of TLH and/or TDA? As in the shadowhunter chronicles so far they havent been mentioned much. Is there any truth to my speculation? Or is having to wait before TDA comes out driving me mad? Thank you in advance. Mizpah xxx P.S I’m that random girl at the book signing at the Prince Charles Cinema that had the matching tops with my Parabatai (Carstairs & Herondale) thank you so much for letting us take a photo you’ve made my life. Like I dont know how I’d exsist without your books. They mean so much to me, anyway I’ve drabbled now, sorry! — uhwhatsmynameagain

treacherous-angels said: Hii Cassie i just want to know if we’ll be hearing more about the faeries in TDA because I feel I don’t know a lot about them even though we hear about them a lot. And in cohf i could feel Magnus hinting to it. Just curious. :)

Hi Cassie, I just had a question, maybe this is something that I missed in the past books, but what is the difference between the Unseelie and Seelie fairies? I didn’t even realize there were different groups until this book where it became slightly more relevant. (I’m a huge fan and cannot wait for the next series to start!) Much love <3 — onehellofasoul

viviennesss said: Hi Cassie, may I ask why we haven’t seen any of the Unseelie Court? I know they’re a mysterious group of faeries and all, but you’ve introduced the Wild Hunt and the Seelie Court so far, and now I’m super curious! Do they have any role at all in the Shadowhunter world?

THE PEOPLE DEMAND ANSWERS. Interestingly, This was in the original version of City of Ashes.

It got cut out, actually, of the final version since my editor didn’t think it was necessary info. I’ve always written assuming the existence of a Seelie Court posits the existence also of an Unseelie Court — as Seelie and Unseelie Courts are part of the established mythology of faeries, not a thing I made up. Most of us who write about faeries have to deal with the Seelie and Unseelie, whether you call them Light and Dark, or Winter and Summer. In fact, one of my favorite things about Holly Black’s Tithe is that Corny just googles “seelie court” when he’s trying to figure out what is going on with all these wacky faeries.

Here’s Wikipedia. 

Seelie and Unseelie Courts.

The Seelie court are known to seek help from humans, to warn those who had accidentally offended them, and to return human kindness with favors of their own. Still, a fairy belonging to this court will avenge insults and could be prone to mischief. The most common time of day to see them is twilight. Other names for the Seelie court are ‘The Shining Thron’ or ‘The Golden ones’ and ‘The light Court’. The categorization of fairies based on court is whether or not a fairy is light or dark. Light fairies are known for playing pranks on humans and having a light hearted attitude, forgetting their sorrows quickly and not realizing how they might be affecting the humans they play pranks on. The Unseelie Court consists of the darkly-inclined fairies. Unlike the Seelie Court, no offense is necessary to bring down their assaults.  As a group (or “host”), they appear at night and assault travelers, often carrying them through the air, beating them, and forcing them to commit such acts as shooting at cattle. Like the beings of the Seelie Court who are not always benevolent, neither are the fairies of the Unseelie Court always malevolent. Most Unseelies can become fond of a particular human if they are viewed as respectful, and would choose to make them something of a pet…The division into “seely” and “unseely” spirits was roughly equivalent to the division of Elves in Norse mythology, into “light” and “dark” distinctions.

The “carrying humans through the air and beating them” thing may sound more like the Wild Hunt, but the Wild Hunt is another myth entirely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Hunt

(You’ll recognize Gwyn in there, if you’ve read CoHF.)

These are myths that infiltrate all our literature. As authors, especially of fantasy, the challenge is to put your own spin on them. The Wild Hunt in the Shadowhunter Chronicles are part of Wild Faerie, which is neither Seelie nor Unseelie, and subject to no laws. They reap the dead and are fairly morally ambiguous. They don’t acknowledge either the Seelie Queen or the Unseelie King as a monarch.

As for the Seelie and Unseelie, for the purposes of the Chronicles, it’s not so much that one court is good and the other bad, it’s that one court involves itself in outside affairs and the other doesn’t. The Unseelie aren’t very interested in Shadowhunters or playing nice with Accords. Their court is a terrifying place. The mention of the Unseelie at the end of CoHF was largely simply to establish their existence, which will be further explored in TDA.

Ace and five of steles
Have you released the ace and five of steles from the tarot card set. I just scrolled through all of cassandrajp’s posts and she was always really good to reblog them all but I didn’t see them.
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Here you go! I do think I’ve posted them but maybe I didn’t tag them. Cecily Herondale and Gabriel Lightwood make up the ace of steles, and the five of steles is Clary and Simon, the scene where she marks him with the Mark of Cain. 

Hey Cassie, so I realized that you never mention the mermaids in your list of downworlders. Why is that? and are we going to get to learn more about them in TDA? Lastly I loved everything about COHF Thank you for being an amazing author!

They’re faeries. Water faeries. Goblins are faeries, kelpies, nixies, pixies (like Kaelie) — all faeries. We learn more about faeries in TDA, the Seelie and Unseelie Courts, but only the gentry (highborn faeries) look extremely human. 

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MAGNUS ANIMATED!!
*The Bane Chronicles written by @cassieclare @sarahreesbrenna @maureenjohnson *
I am.. really sorry for the sketchyness. I haven’t tackled an animation in a LONG time. Errr sorry. But I tried! I flexed my artistic muscles a bit?
Celebrating the Bane Chronicles with a bit of motion!

someone just suddenly reblogged this and reminded me that I actually did it.  So here have it again. (I can’t remember now how many drawings this is. I think it’s 15 cels)

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MAGNUS ANIMATED!!

*The Bane Chronicles written by    *

I am.. really sorry for the sketchyness. I haven’t tackled an animation in a LONG time. Errr sorry. But I tried! I flexed my artistic muscles a bit?

Celebrating the Bane Chronicles with a bit of motion!

someone just suddenly reblogged this and reminded me that I actually did it.  So here have it again. (I can’t remember now how many drawings this is. I think it’s 15 cels)

The Infernal Devices in The Mortal Instruments

Reblogging cause I’ve got a bunch of these questions and I posted this almost a month ago, so — this time not under a cut. Beware COHF SPOILERS!

Hi Cassie :D I just wanted to say that I LOVED City of Heavenly Fire. It was awesomeness. But I just had some questions. Why didn’t Jem/Zachariah tell Emma that he is related to her (even if distantly)? And will he make an appearance in upcoming books? Will Emma eventually know that she’s related to him? These question just crossed my mind while reading. Thanks :) — thatescapist

cassandraclare:

Cassie, i absolutely love all of your books! Is there a chance that Magnus will appear in TLH or TDA?

I’m working on TDA right now and he’s already dropped by. :)

theyareamonguss said: Cassie, I love your books by the way and I have totally gone gaga for the Shadowhunter Chronicles. I have one question though, what happens to Aline Penhallow and Helen Blackthorn? They are one of my otps. And I admire them. I want to know a bit more about them. Thanks.  
Thank you. I love Helen and Aline, too. We know what happens at the end of CoHF, which is that Helen is caught up in the Clave&#8217;s punishment of faeries and sent to a remote research outpost. Aline goes with her. (Obviously this situation is not forever and they do return home, but being separated from your family sucks.)
What the Clave does to the Fair Folk at the end of CoHF marks a turning point for them. Never again I think we will consider them a government that can be fixed by a little fine-tuning. Their harsh abandonment of their own and the fixed prejudices encoded into the way they treat others has to be stopped, and that is the story of the next two series. 
Helen and Aline are very serious about each other; they&#8217;re also intimately entwined with the story of the Blackthorns in TDA because of course, all the stuff that&#8217;s happening is happening to Helen&#8217;s little brothers and sisters, even if she can&#8217;t be there with them. They talk on the phone regularly and skype, and she&#8217;s part of their lives, and so is Aline. Meanwhile through Aline, Helen is privy to some of the more intimate secrets of the Consul and the Council. It makes for an interesting dynamic and I hope you&#8217;ll like it.

theyareamonguss said: Cassie, I love your books by the way and I have totally gone gaga for the Shadowhunter Chronicles. I have one question though, what happens to Aline Penhallow and Helen Blackthorn? They are one of my otps. And I admire them. I want to know a bit more about them. Thanks. 

Thank you. I love Helen and Aline, too. We know what happens at the end of CoHF, which is that Helen is caught up in the Clave’s punishment of faeries and sent to a remote research outpost. Aline goes with her. (Obviously this situation is not forever and they do return home, but being separated from your family sucks.)

What the Clave does to the Fair Folk at the end of CoHF marks a turning point for them. Never again I think we will consider them a government that can be fixed by a little fine-tuning. Their harsh abandonment of their own and the fixed prejudices encoded into the way they treat others has to be stopped, and that is the story of the next two series. 

Helen and Aline are very serious about each other; they’re also intimately entwined with the story of the Blackthorns in TDA because of course, all the stuff that’s happening is happening to Helen’s little brothers and sisters, even if she can’t be there with them. They talk on the phone regularly and skype, and she’s part of their lives, and so is Aline. Meanwhile through Aline, Helen is privy to some of the more intimate secrets of the Consul and the Council. It makes for an interesting dynamic and I hope you’ll like it.

babies. sacrifice. CoHF spoilers.

COHF SPOILERS.

swfrthepox said: Hi again Cass! Since you said that Jace nor Tessa might not be the last Herondale, is it because Clace will going to have a baby? By the Angel, let them have a baby! :D AND (again), why is “Simon’s Sacrifice” not included in CoHF? I hope you could answer. Thank you!

They might have a baby one day, but that is admittedly not what I meant. :) 

"Simon’s Sacrifice" is the chapter now called "Judas Kiss." My editor didn’t like "Simon’s Sacrifice" — she pointed out it gave the game away a bit regarding what was going to happen in the chapter. I acknowledged her rightness and changed the title.

dumbledorelovessherbetlemons said: Jace said that he wasn’t sure how he felt about children. But he’s decided to take the Herondale name anyways (implying that he wants to continue the line of Herondales) and Clary has a general interest in children… Does this mean we can expect Clace babies in tda or twp?? What about Sizzy babies? Thanks so much!

Jace being so young I think making this decision was entirely about his identity and not about continuing the line of Herondales. (And he wanted the manor. :D) And Clary likes Emma — but a lot of people like kids and feel protective of them without wanting them. I’m not saying yes or no, but as someone who loves kids and doesn’t want them myself I do push back against the narrative that everyone has to have children to be happy. But as we do follow Clary, Jace, Simon, etc. through the books, hearing and sometimes seeing what’s happening with them, it is a question that will be answered.

And besides, something’s going to happen that renders Jace’s concerns, if he has any, about continuing the Herondale line, somewhat moot. :P

SPOILERY ART.
SPOILERS BELOW.
SPOILERS FOR COHF.
A reader sent me this - yay, always happy to discover a great new fanartist.
captain-iparis:

A bit spoilery art featuring ‘Jonathan and Val’ + an extended snippet you’ve seen a long time ago from Cassie ‘cause hONEYS I PROMISED Y’ALL THAT I WOULD MAKE Y’ALL CRY WOULD POST A SEBBY FANART after the COHF buzz has ended.

"…He has always had green eyes, said the voice in her head. People often marvel at how much alike you are, he and your mother and yourself.    His name is Jonathan and he is your brother; he has always protected you.
    ‘Clary,’ he said, ‘you’re not going to believe—’
    ‘Jonathan!’ a small voice trilled, and Clary turned her wondering eyes to see a little girl dashing across the grass. She had red hair,    the same shade as Clary’s, and it flew out behind her like a banner…
    …But of course, her name is Valentina, said the voice in the back of her head. Valentine Morgenstern was a great hero of the war; he died in a battle against Hodge Starkweather, but not before he had saved the Mortal Cup, and the Clave along with it. When Luke married your mother, they honored his memory in the name of their daughter.”

A good version of Sebastian/Jonathan has always amazed me. How will he look like if there’s no demon blood in his veins? What will be his personality? And then I read COHF. That part was bittersweet. As it turned out, if there’s no demon blood in his veins, he could have been a protective brother to Clary and a good son to Jocelyn. Damn demon blood and Valentine! In the end, the root of all evil in the latter part of the series is still not Sebastian, but Valentine. I mean, look at that smile! So not-evil. *cries*
Good Jonathan + Valentina (c) Cassie Clare
Fanart (c) me
VIEW IT ON MY DEVIANTART ACCOUNT and add me to yer watch list!
 

SPOILERY ART.

SPOILERS BELOW.

SPOILERS FOR COHF.

A reader sent me this - yay, always happy to discover a great new fanartist.

captain-iparis:

A bit spoilery art featuring ‘Jonathan and Val’ + an extended snippet you’ve seen a long time ago from Cassie ‘cause hONEYS I PROMISED Y’ALL THAT I WOULD MAKE Y’ALL CRY WOULD POST A SEBBY FANART after the COHF buzz has ended.

"…He has always had green eyes, said the voice in her head. People often marvel at how much alike you are, he and your mother and yourself.    His name is Jonathan and he is your brother; he has always protected you.

    ‘Clary,’ he said, ‘you’re not going to believe—’

    ‘Jonathan!’ a small voice trilled, and Clary turned her wondering eyes to see a little girl dashing across the grass. She had red hair,    the same shade as Clary’s, and it flew out behind her like a banner…

    …But of course, her name is Valentina, said the voice in the back of her head. Valentine Morgenstern was a great hero of the war; he died in a battle against Hodge Starkweather, but not before he had saved the Mortal Cup, and the Clave along with it. When Luke married your mother, they honored his memory in the name of their daughter.”

A good version of Sebastian/Jonathan has always amazed me. How will he look like if there’s no demon blood in his veins? What will be his personality? And then I read COHF. That part was bittersweet. As it turned out, if there’s no demon blood in his veins, he could have been a protective brother to Clary and a good son to Jocelyn. Damn demon blood and Valentine! In the end, the root of all evil in the latter part of the series is still not Sebastian, but Valentine. I mean, look at that smile! So not-evil. *cries*

Good Jonathan + Valentina (c) Cassie Clare

Fanart (c) me

VIEW IT ON MY DEVIANTART ACCOUNT and add me to yer watch list!

 

Hi, Cassie! So, I have a few questions about a new warlock who has suddenly become my favorite character, (well, they're all my favorite characters---but this one in particular): Malcolm Fade! So, two questions: will he play a central / important role in TDA, (since he is the High Warlock of LA)? And, two: since something terrible happened to him at the turn of the 20th century, will he be in TLH, (and will said terrible thing happen to him then)? Thanks!

You are very smart. Malcolm isn’t just a TDA character, he’s a TLH character as well. (In fact TLH gives me a chance to do Warlock Reunion, with Magnus, Ragnor, Caterina, and Malcolm together. Maybe they will form a band!)